Comments on: indy alt.net http://jonfuller.codingtomusic.com/2008/05/16/indy-altnet/ Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:21:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Shane Milton http://jonfuller.codingtomusic.com/2008/05/16/indy-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Shane Milton Tue, 20 May 2008 17:32:20 +0000 http://jonfuller.codingtomusic.com/2008/05/16/indy-altnet/#comment-91 Hi Jon! I just wanted to correct that I am an employee of Tridge's, not Leaf. That's a big reason why we were able to get their financial support. :) I'm looking forwards to seeing you again this Thursday to help us make some important decisions about how to run the group going forwards! -Shane Hi Jon!

I just wanted to correct that I am an employee of Tridge’s, not Leaf. That’s a big reason why we were able to get their financial support. :)

I’m looking forwards to seeing you again this Thursday to help us make some important decisions about how to run the group going forwards!

-Shane

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]]> By: Stephen Gregory http://jonfuller.codingtomusic.com/2008/05/16/indy-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Stephen Gregory Fri, 16 May 2008 21:37:00 +0000 http://jonfuller.codingtomusic.com/2008/05/16/indy-altnet/#comment-85 Regarding the Frameworks vs Microsoft argument, I totally agree. I think the <a href="http://jcp.org" rel="nofollow">jcp</a> is one of the best things Java has going for it now. Things that are part of the community end up being brought into core Java, while still giving vendors who provide implementations the ability add value with extensions. In the project work on at <a href="http://www.orchardsoft.com" rel="nofollow">work</a> we have built a framework that is similar to the EntitySpaces approach. It at least seems that way from the info I can see on the entity spaces site. It is very useful and you get some very nice things like type safety and some semantic saftey. I have briefly looked at ActiveRecord, and I have used iBatis and JPA(which Hibernate is a provider of). I am going to assume that most of Hibernate is very close to NHibernate I have to say that JPA is the most impressive. JPQL(a subset of HSQL) has really powerful features that extend basic sql syntax in to the object oriented world and it really does a great job of getting things done easily and expressively. There was a definite learning curve on how to set it up, but having tools like <a href="http://www.hsql.org" rel="nofollow">HSQL</a> for unit/integration testing is incredibly powerful. Now I realize that a lot of what I am talking about is in JVM land and not .NET, but I am hoping that there are analagous entities in the CLR space also. cheers, Stephen Regarding the Frameworks vs Microsoft argument, I totally agree. I think the jcp is one of the best things Java has going for it now. Things that are part of the community end up being brought into core Java, while still giving vendors who provide implementations the ability add value with extensions.

In the project work on at work we have built a framework that is similar to the EntitySpaces approach. It at least seems that way from the info I can see on the entity spaces site. It is very useful and you get some very nice things like type safety and some semantic saftey.

I have briefly looked at ActiveRecord, and I have used iBatis and JPA(which Hibernate is a provider of). I am going to assume that most of Hibernate is very close to NHibernate I have to say that JPA is the most impressive. JPQL(a subset of HSQL) has really powerful features that extend basic sql syntax in to the object oriented world and it really does a great job of getting things done easily and expressively. There was a definite learning curve on how to set it up, but having tools like HSQL for unit/integration testing is incredibly powerful.

Now I realize that a lot of what I am talking about is in JVM land and not .NET, but I am hoping that there are analagous entities in the CLR space also.

cheers,
Stephen

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